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                        <title>6 New Disks All Fail to Certify</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2019 05:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Yes you can just &quot;zero disk&quot; or do a 1 pass certify.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Yes you can just "zero disk" or do a 1 pass certify.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2019 21:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Thanks for the info!  

All 6 disks have made it through 2 passes successfully, but I am going to have to cancel the certification before the 3rd pass completes as I am leaving on a trip f...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Thanks for the info!  

All 6 disks have made it through 2 passes successfully, but I am going to have to cancel the certification before the 3rd pass completes as I am leaving on a trip for which I need this computer. 

I know your videos state that softraid should restart certification where it left off?  If this doesn't happen in a week when I return, can I just do a one pass certification to write zeroes to the drive or do I need to start over from scratch?]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>6 New Disks All Fail to Certify</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2019 03:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[We certify disks all the time. New disks, used disks etc. There is no &quot;random&quot; failure with a certify, unless there is a hardware issue, either the drives, or enclosure/cable/computer, etc....]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[We certify disks all the time. New disks, used disks etc. There is no "random" failure with a certify, unless there is a hardware issue, either the drives, or enclosure/cable/computer, etc.

A disk should not have ANY IO errors during certify. Any that do, should be pre-replaced. This reduces a great many "early" failures.
If you are interested, here is a video presentation from 2016 from our VP Engineering, Tim Standing, on the importance of certification and disk failures.

http://docs.macsysadmin.se/2016/video/Day2Session5.mp4

Since all your disks failed, there is clearly something wrong. This looks to be a computer/cable/enclosure failure, so use trial and error.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>6 New Disks All Fail to Certify</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 15 Sep 2019 21:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[When you say drives should never fail to certify, do you mean that all drives should complete the process and then you look for reported errors?  I thought the point to certification was to ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[When you say drives should never fail to certify, do you mean that all drives should complete the process and then you look for reported errors?  I thought the point to certification was to detect problems in advance, so your statement is a bit confusing to me.  

Also, does the above log give any indication if it is bad disks or my hardware setup?  Or is there no way to know?

And yes I have restarted it without the dock.  The Thunderbay is directly connected to the MacBook now. Closing in on 24 hours with no issues.  Fingers crossed.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>6 New Disks All Fail to Certify</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 15 Sep 2019 18:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Drives should never fail to certify. Certify does not use the SoftRAID driver, it is all OS X. This tells you that there is a hardware issue.

Try direct connecting without the dock, just ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Drives should never fail to certify. Certify does not use the SoftRAID driver, it is all OS X. This tells you that there is a hardware issue.

Try direct connecting without the dock, just to remove a variable.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 15 Sep 2019 04:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hello,

I have used Softraid for years with a Thunderbay 4 to great success. 

I just purchased a new Thunderbay 6/3 and 6 – 12TB Seagate Ironwolf Pro drives to create a large home serve...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello,

I have used Softraid for years with a Thunderbay 4 to great success. 

I just purchased a new Thunderbay 6/3 and 6 – 12TB Seagate Ironwolf Pro drives to create a large home server for my photo/video work.  I was hoping to run a RAID 5 with 60TB of storage (all data is also backed up off-site).  

I started certifying the drives using a 2018 15" MacBook Pro running 10.14.6.  The Thunderbay was connected through a Caldigit TS3+ Dock.  All seemed to be going fine for the better part of the last 1.5 days, but when I came home from dinner tonight all drives had failed to certify (see below).

I noticed the computer was asleep when this happened, and I did have "put hard disks to sleep when possible" checked on my Mac.  I also read that there could be issues with using a dock.  

So, I have connected the Thunderbay directly to my MacBook and I unchecked "put hard disks to sleep when possible".  I have now restarted certification. After restarting certification, I was not-prompted to resume from before, yet the current offset values seem to be where they were when the error occurred.  I have no idea if this means anything, just an observation.

However, I am wondering if I am wasting my time?  So, I thought I would post the log here to get an opinion. 

 I have a hard time believing 6 drives are all bad out the box, but I don't want to waste my time if that is what SoftRAID is suggesting.

Thanks for the help!


Sep 14 20:43:54 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk9, SN: ZHZ141WF, SATA bus 0, id 3 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 16,777,216, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 20:43:54 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk9, SN: ZHZ141WF, SATA bus 0, id 3 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 33,554,432, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 20:43:54 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk9, SN: ZHZ141WF, SATA bus 0, id 3 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 50,331,648, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 20:43:54 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk9, SN: ZHZ141WF, SATA bus 0, id 3 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 67,108,864, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 20:43:56 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk9, SN: ZHZ141WF, SATA bus 0, id 3 (Thunderbolt) failed because this disk has unreliable sectors.  It should be replaced immediately (error number = 66).
Sep 14 20:46:04 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk10, SN: ZHZ0Z8L1, SATA bus 0, id 2 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 16,777,216, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 20:46:04 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk10, SN: ZHZ0Z8L1, SATA bus 0, id 2 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 33,554,432, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 20:46:04 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk10, SN: ZHZ0Z8L1, SATA bus 0, id 2 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 50,331,648, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 20:46:05 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk10, SN: ZHZ0Z8L1, SATA bus 0, id 2 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 67,108,864, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 20:46:06 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk10, SN: ZHZ0Z8L1, SATA bus 0, id 2 (Thunderbolt) failed because this disk has unreliable sectors.  It should be replaced immediately (error number = 66).
Sep 14 20:47:55 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk11, SN: ZHZ0NAV4, SATA bus 0, id 1 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 16,777,216, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 20:47:55 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk11, SN: ZHZ0NAV4, SATA bus 0, id 1 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 33,554,432, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 20:47:55 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk11, SN: ZHZ0NAV4, SATA bus 0, id 1 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 50,331,648, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 20:47:55 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk11, SN: ZHZ0NAV4, SATA bus 0, id 1 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 67,108,864, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 20:47:57 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk11, SN: ZHZ0NAV4, SATA bus 0, id 1 (Thunderbolt) failed because this disk has unreliable sectors.  It should be replaced immediately (error number = 66).
Sep 14 20:48:18 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk7, SN: ZHZ1DHS6, SATA bus 0, id 5 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 16,777,216, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 20:48:18 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk7, SN: ZHZ1DHS6, SATA bus 0, id 5 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 33,554,432, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 20:48:18 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk7, SN: ZHZ1DHS6, SATA bus 0, id 5 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 50,331,648, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 20:48:18 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk7, SN: ZHZ1DHS6, SATA bus 0, id 5 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 67,108,864, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 20:48:20 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk7, SN: ZHZ1DHS6, SATA bus 0, id 5 (Thunderbolt) failed because this disk has unreliable sectors.  It should be replaced immediately (error number = 66).
Sep 14 20:58:34 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk12, SN: ZHZ10Q10, SATA bus 0, id 0 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 16,777,216, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 20:58:34 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk12, SN: ZHZ10Q10, SATA bus 0, id 0 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 33,554,432, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 20:58:34 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk12, SN: ZHZ10Q10, SATA bus 0, id 0 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 50,331,648, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 20:58:34 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk12, SN: ZHZ10Q10, SATA bus 0, id 0 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 67,108,864, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 20:58:36 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk12, SN: ZHZ10Q10, SATA bus 0, id 0 (Thunderbolt) failed because this disk has unreliable sectors.  It should be replaced immediately (error number = 66).
Sep 14 21:19:08 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk8, SN: ZHZ1HPWL, SATA bus 0, id 4 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 16,777,216, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 21:19:08 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk8, SN: ZHZ1HPWL, SATA bus 0, id 4 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 33,554,432, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 21:19:08 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk8, SN: ZHZ1HPWL, SATA bus 0, id 4 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 50,331,648, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 21:19:08 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk8, SN: ZHZ1HPWL, SATA bus 0, id 4 (Thunderbolt) encountered a verify error (offset 67,108,864, i/o block size = 16,777,216).  Error during pass number = 1.  This disk should be replaced immediately.
Sep 14 21:19:10 - SoftRAID Application: The certify disk command for disk disk8, SN: ZHZ1HPWL, SATA bus 0, id 4 (Thunderbolt) failed because this disk has unreliable sectors.  It should be replaced immediately (error number = 66).]]></content:encoded>
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