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(@synesthesia)
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Hi there - is it possible to use the Apple Disk Utility to convert a volume without losing the data when its a softraid voume? (made up of 4 x 4TB internal Aura P.12)

The process afaik with a normal single volume non raid is, unmount, and then you see the option 'convert to APFS'..

 

Any advice gratefully received!

 

Thanks

 

Paul

 
Posted : 20/04/2021 5:56 am
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Not clear which you are asking so will answer both:

Only SoftRAID can covert a volume (RAID 0 or 1) to Apple format.

Disk Utility will not be able to convert an HFS SoftRAID volume to APFS. I actually have not tested this to see what will happen. I will add it to my list.

 
Posted : 20/04/2021 9:44 am
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@softraid-support

 

Has this been tested for the 6.1 update?  I have RAID 0 Accelsior volume I'd like to convert to APFS. Primary application is video editing. What is the current recommendation?

 
Posted : 12/10/2021 9:37 am
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@rgpphotog

We do not have any ability to convert HFS to APFS, so you need to delete the volume and create a new one as APFS

 
Posted : 12/10/2021 11:52 am
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@softraid-support The option is there in Disk Utility. Will Softraid not be compatible with this option?

 
Posted : 12/10/2021 12:35 pm
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Not yet. the external volume structures are different for APFS. SoftRAID does not yet support multiple containers correctly, we are working hard on getting full APFS support. We cannot convert volumes yet, nor erase an HFS as APFS at this time.

 
Posted : 12/10/2021 12:57 pm
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Okay, but no current issues with creating a APFS RAID from scratch (A bit of a PIA but I could do it.) 

I'm unsure if there will be any legitimate gains for going for APFS for this use case. I guess only one way to find out. Thanks. 

 
Posted : 12/10/2021 1:04 pm
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@rgpphotog

Correct, new APFS volumes work fine.

 
Posted : 12/10/2021 1:11 pm
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Is this 'fixed' with SoftRAID 7? Can we now convert HFS+ RAID 5 volumes to APFS? 

Is there a benefit in doing so?

 
Posted : 05/11/2022 7:21 am
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@eoren1 

We cannot support converting HFS to APFS yet.

(APFS specifications are still not fully published is my understanding)

 
Posted : 05/11/2022 1:06 pm
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@eoren1 

We cannot support converting HFS to APFS yet.

(APFS specifications are still not fully published is my understanding)

Thanks. And forum posts elsewhere suggest APFS not a good option for external spinning disks as leads to fragmentation.

 
Posted : 05/11/2022 2:59 pm
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@eoren1 

Not to mention that there are zero repair tools for APFS (li,ke Disk Warrior), none are on the horizon, and APFS is not as bullet proof on MacOS as it appears to be on iphones. external devices are much more fragile in their directories than the locked internal drives of iPhones, iPads and the internal drives on Mac's.

I see so many corrupted APFS volume issues, Apple has to be seeing this internally also.

 
Posted : 05/11/2022 6:41 pm
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Apparently TechTool Pro has been able to repair APFS drives I believe since v11 (now at v17) using macOS 10.13 and higher, though it still does not support defragmenting APFS spinning hard drives.

 
Posted : 12/05/2023 7:36 am
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@smayer97 'Thanks, I will try recommending it when I next see an unmountable APFS volume. that would be great news!

 
Posted : 12/05/2023 1:02 pm
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