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ThunderBay4 won't stop working every morning since I upgraded to Monterey

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Hello everyone, let's see if you can help me, please

I updated to MacOS Monterrey a few days ago and my thunderbay 4 won't stop thundering and flashing the green lights on the hard drives for three or four hours every time I boot up the MacBook or reboot (and the HDs seem to drum to the beat of the lights )

Always and every morning, when I turned on my MacBook Pro 16'' (with MacOS Catalina) the Thunderbay 4 (HD 10Tb Toshiba x 4) sounds and the lights of each HD jump for a while (approximately 30 min. I think it's normal while the HDs are rearmed and SoftRaid does its job and testing the HD.Then every hour, because TimeMachine recovers to a SoftRAID configured volume)

Since I've upgraded to MacOS Monterey, the time has increased 10x, and it's really nasty too, TimeMachine starts before SoftRaid finishes and extends the working time of the disks and lights much longer... I like to stop TimeMachine until SoftRAID has finished its daily boot job)

Spotlight Monterey already did its indexing job when I installed it (it took many hours to do it)

It's normal so many hours of work every morning?

(I'm worried if there's something wrong)

it can be fixed?

I'm starting to think that I've made a mistake updating from Catalina to Monterey... (I needed it to be able to update some work app...)

I have noticed that TimeMachine has increased A LOT in size (since I upgraded to Monterey). The security volume is 15TB and only 5TB is free.
The total of jobs and data that I have, between the MBP16 and the jobs saved in the Thunderbay4 volume, do not exceed 5 TB in size (I attach a screenshot of all disks, SoftRAID open and TimeMachine in case it helps)

Would it be advisable to delete the 15TB TimeMachine backup volume and create it again?
(Having an external backup previously of all jobs and data)

Or remove old TimeMachine backups to Monterey?
(I've read something about it and I think the old TimeMachine Catalina backups don't work and that's why Monterey makes ALL new ones)


Thanks in advance!!


My setup:
MacBook Pro 16
64 GB of RAM / internal 4 TB Apple SSD
Monterey OS 12.5.1
Soft Raid 6.3
Thunderbay 4 TB3 + x4 Toshiba Enterprise MG 10TB on RAID5


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Topic starter Posted : 11/09/2022 4:05 am
Member Admin

Yes, delete your volume and start fresh. Also, you need to make the volume APFS in Monterey. this is probably a spotlight problem and since you cannot delete spotlight indexes on Time Machine volumes, you may as well start over.

Posted : 11/09/2022 7:58 am
Active Member Customer

@softraid-support A lot of thanks for your support!!

Sorry but I don't understand... If you can see the attached images, my RAID5 are all the volumes un HFS+ and the HD Disks in TB4 are mechanical (Toshiba Enterprise 10TB), and my quest is if I need the new volumen for the TimeMachine in APSF format...

can I mix HFS+ volume formats with APSF in the same RAID5??

is this recommended? even with mechanical hard drives?

is there any tutorial or guide to do this?  (erase a volumen and create a new volumen in APSF with SofRAID soft)

I appreciate to much if you know where


Thanks in advance!!

Topic starter Posted : 12/09/2022 9:02 am
Member Admin


As of Monterey, Time Machine requires APFS for a Time Machine volume. It then converts it to case sensitive, in addition. (You do not have to worry about that)

It does not matter what format your source data volume is in, only the Time Machine volume matters.

When you create a volume with SoftRAID, select the file system, APFS if it is going to be used for Time Machine.

Posted : 12/09/2022 3:36 pm
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