[Sticky] macOS 13 (Ventura) public beta

@cjglynn 

We have a public beta. We need to do a full run through as MacOS often throws surprises at us, after the final beta. We hope to release next week, or worst case, the following week.
Its better for users if we catch any changes before we ship a released product.

Here is a link to the beta
http://www.softraid.com/sr_beta

@firssy "I bought a ThunderBay 4 two years ago, it's out of warranty — am I just gonna have a brick if I upgrade to Ventura and don't cough up the dough for the next version of SoftRAID?"

If you bought it with drives, those have a 3 year warranty.
The current challenge is on ARM, we do not have a "bundled" limited driver, so you need to upgrade before you can use your enclosure. On intel, the volume will still mount, etc.

We will be posting details of our support plans soon. I will put it up here at some point, probably in a new thread/topic.

@softraid-support Downloaded and running the latest beta SoftRAID 7.0 b18 on macOS 13.0 (22A380) INTEL without any issues.

@apple-answers-au 

thanks for the feedback.

So far, things working fine for me too. MacOS 13.0 + Softraid 7.0 b18. M1 Mac Mini

@softraid-support I just upgraded to 6 Pro last May. Does that mean I have to purchase another license now?

@kaczocht 

I do not know, but not necessarily. If within a year, you should not. We will release in 7-14 days, then you will know for certain. Wish I could be more definitive, but this is new to me still.

Hi, I waited patiently the release of Ventura as you mentioned me in another thread that the Monterey M1 Apple issue crashing the Mac Studio was solved in Ventura.In the meanwhile I was accessing my older OWC enclosures on my new Mac Studio M1 Ultra through my old Intel iMac with Monterey seeing the enclosures as network disks.Today I installed the Ventura official release 13.0 and the SoftRAID 7.0 b18 beta driver hoping that this time the driver worked. Installation went very smooth for both. But unfortunately the DART problem is not solved and seems even worse than with Monterey.To provide more detail, maybe this can be helpful, I have 5 external OWC Thunderbolt Enclosures, the 3 newest ones with Thunderbolt 3 work correctly and do not create problem (same as with Monterey).

The 2 older enclosures with Thunderbolt 2 as soon as they get connect to the Apple M1 Studio crash immediately the MacStudio. I said worse vs Monterey because in Monterey they were lasting probably 1-2 seconds before the crash, now it is an instantaneous crash of the system as soon as they get connected. 

See below:

Sorry I saw also exactly the other problem I had with the former driver under Monterey. 

With the 3 newer OWC Enclosures that do not cause the DART Kernel Crash so I can generally use them I still have the same VERY ANNOYING problem like in the past... after I shut down the Mac Studio, after 5-10 seconds where the system seems completely turned off the Mac automatically restart. Below the related report after the restart.

In conclusion: at least in my system I do not see any significant difference between the 6.3 drivers under Monterey and the 7.0 b18 under Ventura. The same functional problems are still there. If this can help and if you would be interested to have a remote session I am available of course. 

@theubster 

I sent an email off line so we can collect data to provide to Apple.

@theubster 

Two things to comment on.

The DART panic is a Apple Silicon crash in the DART controller, it is not a SoftRAID issue, SoftRAID cannot work around it. We did not make any driver changes for this issue, it is a fix in Ventura.

the second panic is totally different. It appears similar to a Watchdog panic. Did that one happen when you shutdown or restarted?
how many total drives do you have connected?

Note: Please attach panic logs as plain text. In Text Edit, "Make plain text", then you can attach it.

@softraid-support 

Ok the DART panic is basically the same problem of the past. 

The 2nd panic was the result of having attached 3 OWC Enclosures, a 4x a 6x and an 8x all of them with Thunderbolt 3. As I mentioned in my other mail they work generally well but if I shut down the system after few seconds something is turning on again the Mac Studio. The difference i noticed is that it seems that the restart is happening after some seconds more vs what was happening under Monterey. So basically you think that the system has properly shutdown, you leave the room and after some seconds the system automatically restart. 

The report that I extracted is what you can see after the system restart where Ventura understand that something weird happened and allows you to see the report. Will try to follow your instructions to provide a better report. Thank you for very quick reply.

@theubster 

there is another issue that Apple started addressing in Ventura. In Monterey for example, at approximately 12 disks, the system panics on shutdown. this is because MacOS pauses to "flush" each disk, one by one, for a half second. If it takes too long, the system panics.

In Ventura, this was improved to an average of 24 disks (still too low for many video environments!), before a system would panic. The problem happens more with larger disks, with larger caches.

In my humble non-engineering opinion, all they would have to do is asynchronously flush all drive caches, rather than do one by one. Maybe that is a huge change.

That is the cause of this panic. I will mention this to engineering (they can report to Apple) we have another case, in Ventura.

downloaded the beta. Softraid is running but raid is not showing up in finder. Getting messages that "The disk you attached was not readable by this computer" Can anyone help?

@christiandrothler 

The SoftRAID driver is not loading.

Assuming SoftRAID was working on this computer/system previously, all you should need to do is reinstall SoftRAID driver (Utilities menu), then "Allow" OWC in System Preferences/Privacy and Security. You should be prompted by a pop up dialog box for this when you install the driver.

You probably skipped/missed that step.