[Sticky] macOS 13 (Ventura) public beta

@Henry-In-Florida

Couple odd things you are reporting. First, with 7.5 beta, you are still getting the blank SoftRAID main window? (we have not found the root cause, yet are working on it, but I was wondering if it would affect 13.3)

You cannot uninstalll the SoftRAID driver in 13.3. Which is actually a good thing, as you will discover.

The expiring is interesting, While you can now load SoftRAID driver on an external disk, I have not tested it more than lightly. Its possible there is a bug when booted from an external. Are you running b19 for sure, on the external? Is that the version reporting to expire?

@Henry-In-Florida

As to the forum, sorry, but that is a thank you to very persistent hackers, we have to have all kinds of counter measures.

@henry-in-florida 

We may have some debug info in the next beta or so, to help figure out the cannot intialize itself issue.

@softraid-support 

Don't know if any fixes to your web site were applied, but it seems a bit better today. Still have the issue reported of course.

@softraid-support

Posted by: @softraid-support

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Couple odd things you are reporting. First, with 7.5 beta, you are still getting the blank SoftRAID main window? (we have not found the root cause, yet are working on it, but I was wondering if it would affect 13.3)

Yep 13.3(b) was supposedly a security fix yet seemed to make things with soft-raid worse. The crash problem affects me whereas previously it didn't. I get constant panics mostly full panic. Since nothing was changed except loading your new beta and the MacOS update, I'm assuming it's yours. 

@Henry-In-Florida

You are now getting the dart kernel panic? I would say unluck of the draw. At least we are in the last couple months of this issue, hopefully.

@softraid-support 

Got the later OS 13.3 (no suffixes). No better. While the SoftRAID loads, it's uncontrollable in the default driver included in the OS. In fact, it's terrible, given the crashes and panics. You got yourself a fine kettle of fish here, my friend. Going back to what works in a local drive to boot up SoftRAID with. 

Have barely enough space on the internal to test with, instead of using externals. That would get around the mess... Maybe. 

@Henry-In-Florida

I need more specifics. If there is a crash, the panic log. This version of the SoftRAID driver is extremely stable. Its pretty near final, especially as 13.3 gets closer to release. What is "uncontrollable"? It should be much easier than before, not worse. (excepting the dart panic, which we cannot control)

@softRAID Support

Posted by: @softraid-support

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@Henry-In-Florida

You are now getting the dart kernel panic? I would say unluck of the draw. At least we are in the last couple months of this issue, hopefully.

Lately no more kernel panics, thoughts reported, there was one after first installing 13.3 (22E5236f). Seems to have settled down, past another issue unrelate to SoftRAID 7.x. 

Speaking of, when logging on today, drives no longer appeared for a while. then I tried to install your SR beta 7.5b20 over again, got the same error (not installable). I cannot sent trouble report, therefore. Can't find any reports on SoftRAID to send and in Activity Monitor, SoftRAID Monitor seems to be running(?).

Wondering if I should quit that one? If I do that (quit the SoftRAID Monitor process in Activity Monitor), there is a software expired warning, then Monitor restarts by itself, suppose that is due to the installed version of SR included in MacOS... Normal?? Monitor shows SR Monitor as "Apple"

@Henry-In-Florida

As of 13.3, the SoftRAID driver should ALWAYS be available to load volumes. You can check if the driver is loaded by this terminal.app command:
sudo kextstat -b com.softraid.driver.SoftRAID

If your volumes are slow to load, it could be MacOS is detecting a "dirty" shutdown and is repairing the volume directories before it can mount them. That repair check can take a while. Otherwise, volumes should mount normally, if the disks are available for the volume.

In 13.3, you cannot "reinstall" or "uninstall" the SoftRAID driver. that menu option should be grayed out.

On the SoftRAID app, it is still possible to have a "blank screen" as we have not fixed that yet. Let me know if you ever see that.

I want to see any aberrant behavior by SoftRAID or the application in 13.3. Now is the time to work out any crinkles. We know of the blank window, or "SoftRAID Monitor failed". I do not expect anything else.

Posted by: @softraid-support

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@Henry-In-Florida

On the SoftRAID app, it is still possible to have a "blank screen" as we have not fixed that yet. Let me know if you ever see that.

I want to see any aberrant behavior by SoftRAID or the application in 13.3. Now is the time to work out any crinkles. We know of the blank window, or "SoftRAID Monitor failed". I do not expect anything else.

@softRAID support

I described the failure on your topic about Ventura 13 crashes, since 7.5b19 crashed in a MacOS Ventura, release version not beta. The latest SR beta (20), still has problems for me in MacOS: 

1. The ever popular can't load issue. In my case it's specifically with an external boot drive of MacOS 13.3.  Haven't tried mentioned remediations completely. 
2. Debugging any further user issues or failures in 7.5b20. 

@Henry-In-Florida

With 13.3 beta 3, the SoftRAID driver will load correctly on an external volume. It will always load, in fact.

We are making changes to the Application, but I do not think the driver will have any more changes in 13.3, from the current version.

Be clear for me if you are getting a "kernel panic", in which case, I need to see the crash log (text edit/make plain text). If the application quits, cannot initialize itself, or other ways crashes, I do want to know.

Note: In the beta's when Ventura crashes, you get a report to Apple option automatically, where it can send a core dump to Apple. Keep that open and contact me on the forum and send the panic log. I can tell you then if I want the entire core dump or not. (as if it is not one being worked on by us or Apple)

thanks

Posted by: @softraid-support

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With 13.3 beta 3, the SoftRAID driver will load correctly on an external volume. It will always load, in fact.

@SoftRAID Support

Please don't shoot the messenger. Just reporting what happened. I leave it to you to figure out why. Please tell me what you whether you need me to gather anything further.

I leave it to Apple to make heads or tails of their end of things. Yes, I agree the Apple installed driver is running because the drive and its contents shows up on the desktop and more or less recovered from what caused that crash/panic I had experienced before. I will respond to them about it going forward. 

@Henry-In-Florida

I don't intend to shoot the messenger!

I was just clarifying, this is a significant change with SoftRAID and Ventura. It eliminates quite a few installation issues.
of course if you get a panic, running the developer beta, you should get the Feedback form. If you got us the log, before dismissing that window, we can tell you whether we want all that information for our contacts to review. thanks

As far as the driver loading on externals, we tested it here also, it should be consistent. If you see that again, attach a SoftRAID tech support file, so we can look. Its likely getting near the end of the 13.3 development cycle, so fixes may not come until the next release, but lets be sure to get any issues reported as soon as possible.

thanks

Posted by: @softraid-support

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Be clear for me if you are getting a "kernel panic", in which case, I need to see the crash log (text edit/make plain text). If the application quits, cannot initialize itself, or other ways crashes, I do want to know.

@SoftRAID Support

Where should I see this and what is it called?

I get several instances of "analyticsd", but no specific panic crash log. The crashed thread is Dispatch queue. The file kind is .ips. It is possible to pull it out and send as a .txt file. Looks like it happens at every startup and onward events, probably whenever: booting into softRAID,r when SR-related warning pops up (at startup) about the version of SoftRAID being beta, warning of expiring in an hour or it has already expired (I get all three warnings despite not further attempting to install and SoftRAID anymore. Collecting a bunch <100 all told. Probably since I clean installed the current version. 

However the disks formatted in SofRAID still do appear to mount and work fine despite the above. I find the system to run slow at boot with a spinning. beachball as a result of this activity.